Thoughts on Star Trek: Nemesis *SPOILERS*

[gdog243]

Well, I was looking foward to this movie for about a month, and today I was able to see the first showing. Overall, I thought it was just ok, but too action orianted. Below, is basically things I liked and didn't like about this movie:

Positives

One thing I did like was stewart, as usual carried this movie with a great performance by Tom Hardy as Shinzon. I thought both had great chemistry, and just overall it was great to see. Another thing I loved was that this movie took one thing from TNG that makes it my favorite series, the theme of family. I loved how throughout the movie, family was the main focus and thought it was cool that they finally took a TNG theme for one of thier movies. The final thing I liked was the Argo and that entire scene. That is one cool vehicle, and it looked like Stewart was having a little bit of fun with that scene. Another postitive was the end credits and being able to here the Motion Picture theme song. Boy did that bring back great memories.

Negatives

One of the things that bothered me about this film was how flawed it was. One example was when the Enterprise E was ramming the weapon ship. Why wasn't ENT E distroyed. I mean we have this unstoppable weapon ship, and then when the enterprise comes, the ship gets torn apart like a fly. Another flaw was when Data "Flew" to the other ship, that was quite a distance, and it looked so unrealistic.

Also, another major thing that bothered me was how they dealt with Data's Death. I almost felt insulted that the crew seemed to rub off the death of data just like that, mean no homage, no emotional scene, and don't tell me that "Toast" was the scene because it wasn't enough. I mean here is one of the most popular characters in all of trekdom (Kind of like the spock of TNG) who finished his quest to be more than he was, and there is no homage to that at all. If you are a TNG fan and watched Data grow thoughout the series, were you insulted at this?

Overall, like I said it was just ok, and if I were to grade it, I would give it a C.

In ranking the movies now that I have seen Nemesis, from best to worst:

The Undiscovered Country
The Wrath of Kahn
The Voyage Home
First Contact
Nemesis
Final Frontier
Generations
The Motion Picture
Insurrection
The Search for Spock

[starbase63]

Hiya dog...I'm surprised to find STIII at the bottom of your list. There was a very Trek oriented theme running through it, though it was overshadowed by a lot of over the top acting. Overall, I think it's a much better movie than Final Frontier, which should have ignored the idea of making Sybok Spock's half brother and made him an uncle or cousin, which would have been easier to swallow (not to mention would have probably gained the movie more acceptance from Roddenberry, who pretty much disowned it).
Also, by that point, there had been just too many all-powerful aliens that the Enterprise had met.

[tailkinker]

I have now seen Nemesis and I think it is the best of the Next Gen movies. I enjoyed the action and the humor while subtle at times, was done well, in my opinion. I cried at the end of the movie like a little baby and I am not ashamed to admit it. When Data died, it was like losing a close friend and I thought it was a testament to how far he has grown in his quest to emulate humans, "For no greater love hath he, than would give his life for his fellow man". Borrowed quote yes but true. I give this movie the grade of A+. I loved it. ;D

[gdog243]

hey starbase,

The reason I put The Search for Spock last was mainly because of I thought it was boring, espessically the ending. I thought the pal tor fan scene dragged on way too long, and it could have been better. Also, I didn't really like Kruge at all. I mean what is he, blind? He was willing to die over something that was already being distroyed? I don't know about anyone else, but considering that Kruge was a "Lord" (Which also seemed out of place in Klingon Culture) he wasn't too bright. I guess I am the typed of person who wants Intelligent villians like General Chang (Which is why I love The Undiscovered Country) with my movie.

Also, I know I am in a minority, but when you talk about the "Trek" feel, I think of Star Trek 5. Its not only that, but also one of the good things about nemesis, it showed a great theme of family.